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Backy's avatar

They did not change. They had always been cartoonish characters looking dawn on everybody else and treating stuff they were saying as the one and only "truth". That may impress teenagers, incels and other groups that think they're right and everybody else is a problem (kids-parents, incels-women, boomers-young people, etc) but not any well-read and well-educated person. You just grew up, that's why you are able to tell that they're full of bs.

And Musk is nothing more than a product of a great PR team. The moment he fired them was the moment the world saw his true face. He did not change, he was always like that - another rich kid with inflated ego.

Unfortunately, people these days think that the louder one shouts, the more right he/she is.

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Justin Ross's avatar

That's a fair point.

I mean I do think most of them have done the whole "doubling down" thing, which has made them far worse, but what you're saying is also true.

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Backy's avatar

In my opinion that's the thing - intelligent people understand that they don't know everything and sometimes they're just wrong - they have no problem admitting it. Pseudo-intellectuals always double down.

If I see somebody who seemingly has all the answers on any given subject instead of simple "I don't know" then most likely it's just another "fake it till you make it" person. You see it all the time with various influencers, etc - at some point they reach "cult-following" status and after that they start spouting even more nonsense than before.

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Justin Ross's avatar

100% agree.

I see what you're saying - that basically none of these people ever had the integrity to say "I don't know." Which I mostly agree with

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Shelly's avatar

Great post! Agree with a lot of your points. Could it be in part that these people are really interesting to you initially because they are new and different? Once the novelty of their views wear off, they become uninteresting to you? Then you look for new perspectives that are once again new and different to you?

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Justin Ross's avatar

Yes that could be part of it. Cycles of novelty.

Although novelty is a lot less important to me than genuinely good ideas

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