I agree with this. I’ve often wondered if there is any way for a for-profit company, particularly a public one, to resist the rotting effects of profit incentives. I don’t believe there are. Both profit-seeking and our addiction to outrage seem to be human nature. Once we realize that, it is incumbent on us to create systems that avoid them. Systems of governance and individual systems of habit, like deleting apps that erode your focus and control. Nicely said.
“Jordan Peterson hasn’t been a useful public figure in seven years”
Seems a little harsh (and inaccurate).
In the last 7 years Peterson has published 3 books, including his most popular 12 rules for life in 2018.
He launched the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (a non-woke WEF, if you will). He launched an online educational platform. Dozens of lectures on the books of the Bible and live ‘shows’ in dozens of countries. And wtv he does on his podcast.
His message of meaning in life is actually best described as ‘useful’!
Point taken. I suppose I would amend my statement and say five-ish years.
I did enjoy 12 Rules very much. As well as his Bible lecture series. But ever since then, Peterson has become little more than an arrogant bully constantly seeking conflict. He wears this perpetual scowl, waiting to do battle with anyone who dares to disagree with him.
He's just... so obviously full of rage. I can't take him seriously anymore.
I used to love the guy. But his message has become not only repetitive but actually worse because he's just so blatantly political and conflict-oriented now. It just doesn't seem useful to me anymore.
This is best take on modern internet culture I've ever seen. We click only from the options presented to us and the platforms have an incentive to make those options the most clickable.
I once heard comedian Ryan Long say that this is like seeing a homeless guy shitting on the street. Of course it captures my attention more than anything else around it in the moment. The algorithm sees my gaze linger slightly longer there, assumes that's what I like, and intentionally shows me more of it. It then assumes that other people might like to see this guys shitting too.
Just because something might grab our eyeballs doesn't mean we like it, would have asked for it intentionally, or that it's helpful to us in anyway. If we boil this down to its most concentrated form, my feed will be 100% boobs.
I also share your views about Substack. Amazing culture for now, we'll see how it goes!
I think i'm more rooted person and tend not to like to move from place to place, but i understand those who do, especially when the place no longer meets their needs.
I started to make physical lists of creators that caught my interest, so that if they move somewhere else i can still find them. Though it requires hope that they go to the new place under the same name...
I think Jordan Peterson may have not been useful to you
They're a lot of people who still read his books watch his videos and learn from his content. NGL i once muted him on twitter but i wouldn't say "not useful". It's subjective what's not useful to you is useful to others
I agree with this. I’ve often wondered if there is any way for a for-profit company, particularly a public one, to resist the rotting effects of profit incentives. I don’t believe there are. Both profit-seeking and our addiction to outrage seem to be human nature. Once we realize that, it is incumbent on us to create systems that avoid them. Systems of governance and individual systems of habit, like deleting apps that erode your focus and control. Nicely said.
“Jordan Peterson hasn’t been a useful public figure in seven years”
Seems a little harsh (and inaccurate).
In the last 7 years Peterson has published 3 books, including his most popular 12 rules for life in 2018.
He launched the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (a non-woke WEF, if you will). He launched an online educational platform. Dozens of lectures on the books of the Bible and live ‘shows’ in dozens of countries. And wtv he does on his podcast.
His message of meaning in life is actually best described as ‘useful’!
Point taken. I suppose I would amend my statement and say five-ish years.
I did enjoy 12 Rules very much. As well as his Bible lecture series. But ever since then, Peterson has become little more than an arrogant bully constantly seeking conflict. He wears this perpetual scowl, waiting to do battle with anyone who dares to disagree with him.
He's just... so obviously full of rage. I can't take him seriously anymore.
I used to love the guy. But his message has become not only repetitive but actually worse because he's just so blatantly political and conflict-oriented now. It just doesn't seem useful to me anymore.
Fair enough.
I took it as useful more broadly, not to you. Makes sense.
This is best take on modern internet culture I've ever seen. We click only from the options presented to us and the platforms have an incentive to make those options the most clickable.
I once heard comedian Ryan Long say that this is like seeing a homeless guy shitting on the street. Of course it captures my attention more than anything else around it in the moment. The algorithm sees my gaze linger slightly longer there, assumes that's what I like, and intentionally shows me more of it. It then assumes that other people might like to see this guys shitting too.
Just because something might grab our eyeballs doesn't mean we like it, would have asked for it intentionally, or that it's helpful to us in anyway. If we boil this down to its most concentrated form, my feed will be 100% boobs.
I also share your views about Substack. Amazing culture for now, we'll see how it goes!
Thank you, and that's a great analogy. Hadn't heard that.
Very, very insightful. Ty.
I think i'm more rooted person and tend not to like to move from place to place, but i understand those who do, especially when the place no longer meets their needs.
I started to make physical lists of creators that caught my interest, so that if they move somewhere else i can still find them. Though it requires hope that they go to the new place under the same name...
I think Jordan Peterson may have not been useful to you
They're a lot of people who still read his books watch his videos and learn from his content. NGL i once muted him on twitter but i wouldn't say "not useful". It's subjective what's not useful to you is useful to others